Talk:屎坑
Latest comment: 1 year ago by Justinrleung in topic Crude?
Crude?[edit]
@Justinrleung, RcAlex36 From what I heard, this term is considered crude in Hong Kong Cantonese, even though many Southeast Asian Cantonese people use it. A Cantonese speaker from Singapore told me that when he first visited Hong Kong, he was called out by Hongkongers for being vulgar because he used this term. The dog2 (talk) 15:20, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- @The dog2: I guess so. It's not necessarily vulgar, but it would probably sound crude/unrefined/uneducated/rural. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 22:22, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Justinrleung: Should we add some sort of a note to the definition then? Or is a usage note more appropriate. It is probably more commonly used by Cantonese speakers in Singapore than in Hong Kong because most of the Cantonese immigrants to Singapore in colonial times were overwhelmingly poor and uneducated, while many of those who settled in Hong Kong consisted were well-educated upper class folks. But even in Singapore, it is definitely considered less refined than 廁所. The dog2 (talk) 22:28, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- @The dog2: Because I don't particularly know the situation across Cantonese-speaking communities, I just put in a vague note for now. We may need to do a little more digging to know if we should make it more regionally specific. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 22:42, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Justinrleung: If this helps, my parents said that when they hear this term, they think of the old-style toilets they used to have in their childhood, back when flush toilets were a rarity in Singapore, and most toilets were just a simple hole in the ground, while they will use 廁所 for a facility with modern flush toilets. But this is hardly universal, and I have heard Singaporean Cantonese use it to refer to modern flush toilets too. Here's an example of such a usage: [1] (23:15). The dog2 (talk) 23:09, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- @The dog2: The video doesn't really make it clear (and it's talking about things of the past). — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 23:12, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Justinrleung: If this helps, my parents said that when they hear this term, they think of the old-style toilets they used to have in their childhood, back when flush toilets were a rarity in Singapore, and most toilets were just a simple hole in the ground, while they will use 廁所 for a facility with modern flush toilets. But this is hardly universal, and I have heard Singaporean Cantonese use it to refer to modern flush toilets too. Here's an example of such a usage: [1] (23:15). The dog2 (talk) 23:09, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- @The dog2: Because I don't particularly know the situation across Cantonese-speaking communities, I just put in a vague note for now. We may need to do a little more digging to know if we should make it more regionally specific. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 22:42, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Justinrleung: Should we add some sort of a note to the definition then? Or is a usage note more appropriate. It is probably more commonly used by Cantonese speakers in Singapore than in Hong Kong because most of the Cantonese immigrants to Singapore in colonial times were overwhelmingly poor and uneducated, while many of those who settled in Hong Kong consisted were well-educated upper class folks. But even in Singapore, it is definitely considered less refined than 廁所. The dog2 (talk) 22:28, 22 June 2022 (UTC)